Tuesday Tossup - Take Two
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Some…Fights
Go slippin’ through the cracks
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Is pickin’ up the slack
There’s no fight too long,
No fight too quick
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They were correct in guessing last weeks Tossup. Shane Carwin Vs Brett Rogers
I think this week’s is easier, but it probably depends how you go at it. Also, make sure to think about the raw numbers and try to get a sense of the caliber of fighter you’re looking at/for.
Similarities
Fighter A and Fighter B have the *SAME* number of losses
Fighter A and Fighter B have both *LOST* once this year
Fighter A advantage(s)
Fighter A has *TWICE* as many wins as Fighter B
Fighter A has a *HIGHER* Sub% than Fighter B
Fighter A has a *HIGHER* KO% than fighter B
Fighter B advantage(s)
Fighter B has a strength of schedule over 100 points *HIGHER* than Fighter A
Additional Information
Fighter A and Fighter share *ONE* common opponent. Fighter A beat them, Fighter B lost to them.
Also note that by saying “higher sub%” I mean that not only does the fighter have more total subs, they win via sub a higher percent of the time than the other fighter. Ditto for KOs.
Who ya got?
Obviously this one depends heavily on how you value strength of schedule. An even deeper discussion is how you weigh strength of schedule for wins versus strength of schedule for loses. That, however, is a topic for a rant on a different day. 8P
In terms of pure achievement from a sport point of view though…who ya got?
Tags: Tossup
June 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Should I be concerned that I clicked the youtube link and sang the new mma-elo theme song just to see how well it all worked?
June 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I think you’re ok unless you catch yourself humming it at the can. 8P
The verse gets a little off, but it comes back before the refrain. I think it hinges on how you handle E-LOW, E- EL - OH, etc. *shrugs*
Either way, who ya got? How much does 100 or even 200 points of “strength of schedule” actually buy you?
June 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Is it *exactly* twice as many wins for fighter A? I’m assuming so, otherwise you probably would have said “over twice as many”.
June 19th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Yup, it is *EXACTLY* twice as many wins. However, it is over 100 point difference in currently listed strength of schedule. *EXACT* same number of loses as well.
I thought about including “victorious” strength of schedule, but I don’t currently show that on the site. Hrmmm…maybe I should add that to the site anyway. Something like:
Fighter A - Strength of Schedule YYY
Strength of Opponents actually *BEAT* ZZZ
June 22nd, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Arg… OK, I’m stumped. The last one was actually somewhat easy as the “same winning percentage, but 10% more wins” meant that both were likely undefeated fighters, and probably 11 vs 10 fights.
This one, every time I think of someone I can’t for the life of me find someone I can’t think/find anyone who matches the other criteria. I mean, I immediately started thinking of BJ for fighter B (who can’t have THAT many wins), but I can’t think of anyone who’s 26-5.
Any time I think of someone who’s maybe lost once (ie, Brock), said loss has never been this year. Leites might also be a good one, but I’m not sure who’s 7-2 (or 28-2) and also lost this year.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:07 pm
No one has guessed right yet.
Here are a few random things. Let me know which gives it away…
Both fighters are *NOW* in the same weight class.
One of the fighters has lost their last *TWO* in a row.
Neither fighter is BJ, but he *IS* a part of one of the fighters records. (huge hint)
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
So, of the fighter’s BJ’s fought that have –lost– in in 2009 (not including fights after this was posted):
Sherk 34-4 68-4 or *17-4*
Stevenson 30-10 60-10 or 15-10
Pulver 22-12 44-12 or 11-12
Gomi 30-5 60-5 or *15-5*
Serra 9-6 *18-5*
Of those, I’d say Sherk, Gomi, and Serra are the likely candidates for one of them. These are all guys I’ve considered before, though, and damned if I can find anyone with the highlighted records.
June 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
*18-6* for a possible Serra opponent… oops